Hinduism under Attack!

Is hindusim and its basis beliefs under attack? Before junking this as Alarmist blog by a Hindu Fundametalist, consider these facts which has been reported by all over media.

September, 2007: The Archaeological Survey of India on Wednesday filed an affidavit in the Supreme Court stating that there is no historical and scientific evidence to establish the existence of Lord Ram or the other characters of the Ramayana. Denying the Ram Setu or Adams Bridge is a man-made structure, it said Ramcharitmanas by Tulsidas cannot be taken as a historical record to “prove the existence of the characters or occurrence of events” depicted in it.

December 2007: West Bengal Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee claimed Ram is the creation of poets who glorified him in their ballads.

December 2007: Tamil Nadu Chief Minister and DMK President M Karunanidhi claimed Ram was a drunkard in Ramayana and Ram was just a character in Ramayana and his existence cannot be accepted

December 2007: A portion from the Question paper for 9th standard Malayalam paper prepared by School Academic Council: “ Arya Putra, You may go now, Please get me membership in a Video Shop, I will pass my time by watching Video Cassettes for 14 years untill you come back”!

Our secular Leadership Led by allies in UPA consisting of Communists, Congress and DMK appears to be determined in junking basic beliefs of our culture and civilisational heritage. A hindu has Sri Ram in every segment of his life, he grows up hearing stories in Ramayana in the process learning how to be a better human being. He watches Ramlila every years and learns how Truth will ultimately defeat Untruth. He expresses his devotion of Sri Ram by saying "Ram Ram" as a way of greeting each other. Even in his death his deadbody is carried in midst of "Ram Nam Satya Hai" chants. Hope our secular leadership will realise that with their act they are destroying a 5000 year old way of life.

Does this remind you of anything?

An Outrageous Video Insulting National Flag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp44LRRXpeo

Please watch the above video. I am not sure what kind of function is it but definitely some sort of Xtian convention. Its in Malayalam. I have not seen a more outrageous insult of National Flag!!!

How the person is defining different colours of the flag. How he is Misleading people to concert using the white Colour in the flag!!!

I have translated the entire talk in English for the benefit of people who cannot understand Malayalam

Following is the translation:

Indians are people with Light inside. Now Tricolour Flag. Saffron Colour on Top, Green in Bottom, White in Middle

What is Saffron? It indicates Bravery and Dedication. The top indicates about people who are ready to Beat, Punch, Kill and Stab. The green at bottom is not that It indicates Self Sufficient India. That means people who have money. Understand? But we are the white in the Middle. halleluyah. Understand? People who understood are praising the lord. I call praise for the My Lord who brought White in Middle of the flag . Not Finished. Do you know Chakra, the symbol of Power, Ashok Chakra? That is in White. Lord didnot give it to either Saffron or to Green. GLORY! Do you want to hear more. It is Called Ashoka Chakra. Shoka Means Sadness. Ashoka mean will remove Sadness. That means if you want to remove sadness you have to come to white. Even if its Saffron or Green, it has to come to white to remove saddness. Halleluyah.. People who understood and Praising the lord. That means this night you have to come to white, that means you have to come to Jesus. Without coming to Jesus you will not get light. Praise the lord!!!!!

A News Release we all missed

His Royal Highness the Crown Prince Rahul Gandhi, great-grandson of the first Prime Minister of India Jawaharlal Nehru and grandson of Nehru’s daughter Indira and Feroz Gandhy , was formally appointed as heir-apparent to the Indian Prime Minster Throne. His formal investiture as party general secretary took place early this month in Congress Party’s Working Committee Meeting on Nov 6. HRH Crown Price Rahul Gandhi is fifth member of the “dynasty” .

Later in the day, the AICC session adopted a resolution welcoming his appointment as the party general secretary. HRH Rahul Gandhi is perhaps the only general secretary welcomed through a resolution by the AICC.

His Speech during the AICC Session was an insight into his wisdom and foresight. On the issue of Certain Congress Guidelines pertaining to khadi and abstain from alcohol, HRH gave clarion call to shed hypocrisy and suggested that the party should include only those conditions that “were practical and could be verified”. His indepth Analysis of Issues were visible earlier in the year, when he declared
“You know that when any member of my family had decided to do anything, he does it. . . I belong to the family which has never moved backwards, which has never gone back on its words. . . Be it the freedom struggle, the division of Pakistan or taking India to the 21st century.’’

However, some enemies of state misinterpreted his statement and sadly gave an entirely new meaning which resulted in a diplomatic disaster.

The Nation eagerly awaits formal crowning of HRH Rahul Gandhi as King . Currently, the nation is being managed by Doctor Manmohan Singh in lines with the Glorious Tradition Laid out in Bharath of Ramayana. You might be aware that Bharat took the slippers of Rama and placed them on the throne and ruled virtually at Ayodhya till Lord Rama's return from the banishment.

Long Live the HH Queen, Long Live HRH Crown Prince

China Claims Arunachal Pradesh

Nation was shocked today when Chinese Ambassador to India, Sun Yuxi claimed Arunachal Pradesh to be Chinese territory. In an interview with CNN-IBN, he claimed

"In our position, the whole of Arunachal Pradesh is Chinese territory and Tawang is only one place in it. We are claiming whole of that (Arunachal Pradesh). That is our position,"

It is intriguing that this deplorable and irresponsible statement comes only days ahead of visit of Chinese President Hu Jintao's. Nation need not be surprised by the deafening silence of our PM & Left Parties. Our PM is waiting for Super PM's approval for reading the statement prepared by CPM and assorted communists.

The predicament of Indian communists (famous for their slogan Chairman Mao, Our Chairman) is understandable. After all, they were in forefront of champaign to allow Chinese President Hu Jintao address a joint session of Parliament. It will be hilarious, if Premier of a country who has evil designs on India's Territory is allowed to lecture us from the temple of our democracy. I am sure thousands of brave soldiers who laid down their life fighting Chinese aggression in 1965 would forgive our stupidity.

Also, its only days since CPM was Lobbying for Chinese Business Interest in India and People's Democracy, Weekly Organ of the Communist Party of India in a recent article writes

"It is, indeed, ironical that such a decision(of scrutinizing FDI from China) should come in the declared year of friendship between India and China. Further, it comes barely a month before the official state visit of the Chinese President,"

Government of India should ask China to recall Ambassador Sun Yuxi. India should take cue from China's own reaction whenever someone made a statement contrary to Chinese One China Policy(Policy which states Taiwan to be province of China).

Tail Piece: When asked for his opinion CPM leader Sitaram Yechuri told mediapersons "These are historical issues, there are disputes, this is why these issues are being discussed," . Is Mr. Yechury trying to justify China's position by by stating that there were territory disputes. Isn't it high time CPM chose between China and India.

Hinduism is a CULT: CPM

Communists who consider India as a "federation of independent states" has always considered Hinduism as a threat to their crusade to convert India into Communism. For them anything associated with Nation is a Taboo. No wonder they have Sabotaged the quit movement, refused to accept India's freedom (After independence on August 15, 1947), started an armed rebellion against the Indian state, sided with China in the Sino-Indian conflict in 1962, supported the Emergency and press censorship in 1975, criticized Pokharan-II and have since led the pack opposing the Ramjanmabhumi movement.

A recent article in People's Democracy, Weekly Organ of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) Vol. XXX No. 46 November 12, 2006 has compared Hinduism to a Cult!. It reads

Although Dakshin Karnataka and Udipi district, not to speak of the Mangalore where ‘riots’ were recently engineered, are strong bases of the Sangh Parivar, their activities are widely spread over the entire state. All the areas targeted by the Hindutva forces have historically been home to syncretic cultures. In terms of religions there is a history of interactions between Islam and the various cults broadly termed as Hinduism, and the influence of Christianity and even Buddhism and Jainism.

Cult is defined as A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.

It really takes a Leap of Fancy to describe Hinduism as Extremist. Perhaps Age is catching up with the Senile Leadership of Communist Party otherwise how would they forget that its Hindusim who instead of dividing world as believers and non Believers , gave world the slogan of "Vasudaiva Kudumbam". Then comes the question of living in unconventional manner. At least in this case, We are guilty as charged otherwise any other group would have reacted to these insults which are being heaped on us day in and day out. We Hindus live in a fools paradise.

It is hilarious to note that this is the same communist party who had supporetd Madhani a Known extremist and is now in forefront to release Afzal! There is not even a single instance in which CPM has unequivocally criticized Jehadi Terrorism. In fact, just like during partition CPM is providing philosophical and intellectual underpinning to all antinational movements.

It is time that we take this bull by horn. CPM should not be allowed to get away with this slanderous champaign of equating Hinduism with a cult .

Please PROTEST!

The Ultimate Irony!!

The person who attacked the temple of democracy is to pardoned to "Save Democracy".

I am really amused by Congress stand on this. Where was this humanitarian Gesture when Satwant Singh & Kehar Singh (Killers of Indira Gandhi) were hanged to death on January 6, 1989. Guess Humanitarian feelings increase with size of vote bank.

One of SUCKulars NANDITA HAKSAR wrote an article in Outlook "The code book for SUCKulars". Her reasons for Hanging are:-

I believe that if Mohammad Afzal is hanged it will be a severe blow to the future of Indian democracy. Why do I say this? Because the hanging would further institutionalize the growing lawlessness of the police; it would strengthen the growing authoritarianism of the Indian state; it would undermine the peace process in Kashmir and give fillip to the Hindu fascist forces.

Her Comment that it would help Hindu Facist forces is really hilarious!! Now the cat is out. They donot want to kill the butcher as it may help sangh Parivar. What a twisted Logic!!!

Durga Puja gets into Trouble with Mulims

Clashes between Hindu and Muslim groups broke out at two places in south and central India following quarrels over Durga Puja processions.

The trouble in Nizamabad began when a procession carrying an idol of Hindu Goddess Durga for immersion passed before a mosque. Muslims objected to a procession carrying the idol of goddess Durga passing in front of their place of worship. Suddenly, stones and footwear rained on the procession resulting in a clash between the two groups.

Similair Situation happened at Chhindwara town of Madhya Pradesh, Trouble started when some someone allegedly threw a bone at a Goddess Durga idol in Diwanjipura locality of Chhindwar, while it was being taken for immersion on Tuesday.

In the Land of Durga, Guess now she also have to be locked up. Lets take comforth that we are "Secular"

Be Outraged and Show your Outrage

Leading Parties asking clemency Islamic Terrorist Mohammad Afzal Guru

- The CPI-M demanded a review of Guru's death sentence, saying the step would hamper the peace process in the subcontinent. According to them, The President should revoke Guru's death sentence in the larger interest of the country. CPI-M state secretary and legislator M Y Tarigami has gone to Delhi to mobilise intellectuals, social and rights activists and politicians to approach the President for clemency.

- PDP chief Mehbooba Mufti, have joined separatists in asking that Mohammad Afzal Guru "I'll suggest that all (political parties) -- the Congress, National Conference and PDP and other mainstream parties – should together appeal to the President to change this sentence from death to life imprisonment."

Dismiss J&K Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad

On December 13, 2001, the highest seat of our democracy, Parliament of India was attacked by a group of Islamic Terrorists 9 policemen and 3 parliament staffer lost their life fighting the marauders.

The four accused – Mohammad Afzal, Shaukat Hussain Guru, Afsan Guru, and SAR Geelani were tried and rightly awared the Death Sentence. On that day we thought justice was done to this nation and the people who died fighting the Terrorists.

However, the great Seculars led by organisations such as All India Committee in Defence of SAR Geelani went allout against the judgement and mostly due to their "untiring" efforts the apex court acquitted Geelani and Afsan Guru from all charges and had reduced the death sentence awarded to Shaukat Hussain to 10 years' imprisonment.

However, it upheld the judgement sentencing Afzal to death for actively participating in the conspiracy to attack parliament and waging war against the Indian state.

In its judgement the apex court characterised Afzal as a "menace to the society", whose "life should become extinct" to satisfy "the collective conscience of the society".

But now it seems the SUCKulars are at it again. They want to give clemency to Afzal. I was shocked to read that J&K Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad spoke to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Mohd Afzal's death penalty and sought presidential clemency for Afzal.

Its high time we realise that our very existence is under attack. In the race for few Minority Vote the SUCKualrs in this nation will even pawn their loved ones. It is high time for the Nationalists of this Nation to RISE AGAINST THIS BALLANT ATTACK on the very fabric of this nation.

If not now then when?

For all the wrong reasons

Kerala, India’s HDI (human development indices) posterboy for UNDP is in center of attention for all the wrong reasons. Kerala finds special place in Frederick Forsyth's new book "The Afghan" a 9/11 non-fiction now dominates the bestseller list . He has described kerala as "Once the hotbed of Communism, (it) has been particularly receptive territory for Islamist extremism."

This should not come as surprise for people who have been watching developments in Kerala closely. The emergence of Islamic fundamentalist groups in Malabar acquired a serious dimension from the mid-1990s after a series of disturbing events. The abduction and murder of reformist scholar Maulavi Abul Hassan Chekannur in July 1993 was the first indication of the strong fundamentalist trend gaining ground in this region. The seizure of pipe bombs concealed in plastic bags in Malappuram in 1996 was further proof of terror groups gaining roots. During interrogation, two Tamil Nadu bomb blast suspects, Imam Ali and Hyder Ali, had revealed about their visits to Malappuram and training people in handling explosives. Other signs like intermittent small-scale explosions in Kozhikode early this year, periodic arms seizures across the state, and the burning of Tamil Nadu transport buses by suspected ISS/PDP activists - are all ominous trends pointing to Kerala turning into an extremist flash point.

All this is supported by the SUCKular Political class in Kerala. Kerala assemble got the dubious distinction of passing unanimous resolution supporting Abdul Nasser Madhani Chief Architect of 1998 Coimbatore Serial Bomb Blast Killing 59 People.

It is sad to see Gods own land being fed to dogs.

Silence of the Lamps

It seems the Indian Schools the abode of science and learning has all of a sudden become haven for occult happenings! The incident happened on September 6 the assembly hall of the premier Loreto Convent, a 140-year-old missionary educational institution. Here Nobo Kumar Mondal indulged in the practice of invoking the dead and carrying on a live conversation with them. The seance was arranged by one Father Sebastian, the priest of a catholic church. On being asked Father Sebastian said, ‘I fail to understand why you all are suspicious.’ ‘Mandal really has miraculous healing powers. You have to see to believe that the lord actually descends on him to bless those who seek his blessings,’.

It seems Christ descended and entered the body of Mandal in front of over 300 students drawn from classes 8 to 12. Mandal twisted and turned and after a few moments, he was up on his feet and declared that Jesus had entered his body and he was ready to bless us. I guess the twisting & turning was due to the effort required for another spirit to enter the body!

Several girls fainted during the two-hour show, and many others had to be given medical help. Even the teachers got scared.

I was amused by the reaction of our SUCKular press. Imagine the outcry if it would have been a hindu institution but here there is not even a murmur of protest here. When Some youths protested against the incident the Press howled "Loreto convent vandalized, schools protest", " Lucknow's Loreto Convent vandalised"

Sister Tressia defended the occult show. ‘It was one of our spiritual assemblies where our aim is to let the children have an experience of god. My doubt is why the god decided to come as Jesus why not as Rama or Krishna after all majority of the students who were forced to bear the torture were Hindus?

At one side we have muslims who refuse to sing National Song Vande Matram as it hurts their Religious sentiments and on the other side we have Christian Missionaries who are practicing Occult in secular schools and several Non Christian Students had to bear the torture!! Seems only people whose sentiments have no valuue is Hindus.

Please feel free to visit Nobo Kumar Mondal's Website. The question is why did school invite such a shady character to school!

Vande Mataram not mandatory: Congress

Seems congress has bend its khees again in front of Muslim Fundamentalism. Endorsing Union HRD Minister Arjun Singh's views, Congress on Monday said the direction to educational institutions on recitation of 'Vande Mataram' was not mandatory but ‘voluntary in nature’ and any community was free to recite it or not.

Question to Congress is what other things you would like to make mandatory? Not surprising, coming from a party formed by Anne Beasent an English, First Led by Last Englishman in India Nehru, Currently led by an Antonio maino (Sonia Gandhi) Italian, Next would be half Italian planning to marry a spanish.

Update:
Nation has the right to ask Antonio maino (Sonia Gandhi) why she skipped the function to celebrate the centenary of the national song. Or is her past catching up..

Are we Sitting on top of a Timebomb

Kerala police has arrested 18 Simi activists from Kochi. They were arrested when police received an anonymous call, saying some suspected SIMI activists have gathered at an auditorium for a meeting. With these arrests by the Ernakulam police indications of an attempt by the banned group SIMI to regroup in Kerala have surfaced. The audacity of the activists is frightening.

The raids were conducted on the basis of information extracted from one of the arrested activists that some documents related to the SIMI, illegal maps of India and many books containing anti-national writings were being distributed in Kerala through various bookstalls in Malabar, after being transported to Kozhikode from Pakistan via Middle East. Books such as Mass Resistance in Kashmir, origin, evolution, and option. The book is written by Tahir Amin, professor of international relations, Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.

A review of the book Mass Resistance in Kashmir, origin, evolution, and option by Reeta C. Tremblay reads as follows:-

what is most worrisome about this book is the solution the author proposes to resolve the present crisis in Kashmir. For him, the movement is fundamentally Islamic, favouring Kashmir's integration with Pakistan. Therefore, he argues, Pakistan must actively provide effective (military) assistance to the Kashmiri resistance, unify the militant movement by resolving differences between the independence-oriented Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front and the Pakistani integrationist Hizbul Mujahideen, orchestrate the imposition of economic sanctions against India by the Muslim countries and mobilize the Muslim masses at the societal level.
Amin states in categorical terms that the implementation of the UN resolution of plebiscite in Kashmir will be possible only when "the cost of occupation for India increases so much that it (the present Indian military intervention) becomes unacceptable to it" (p. 149). In other words, "the resistance must develop itself into a high-tech modern guerrilla warfare machine, capable of inflicting lethal blows to the Indian army" (p. 150). The Mujahideen "must acquire sophisticated arms" and "must think of imaginative ways of waging the guerrilla warfare" (p. 103). The author's claim that the mobilization of the Kashmiri masses has been achieved by the militant groups "in the name of Islam, not that of nationalism" (p. 15)

Full Review

As per Government of India, SIMI's avowed objective is to replace Indian nationalism with international Islamic order. They have are receiving funds from Riyadh-based World Assembly of Muslim Youth and has close links with the International Islamic Federation of Students Organisations of Kuwait, Chicago-based Consultative Committee of Indian Muslims, Jamait-e-Islami of Bangladesh(who regularly attend meetings of SIMI held in West Bengal), Al-umma in Tamil Nadu.

Inspite all this information, it is scary when we realise that this group is getting the Oxygen to survive from our political class. Their list of supporters reads Who's Who. It includes Uttar Pradesh Govt. (supported by Congress and CPM). On SIMI they say "at the moment SIMI has not been found to be indulging in anti-national activities and nothing objectionable has come to light. Therefore, the government of UP does not support banning SIMI.". Congress Leader Salman Kurshid who says “We cannot hold any person or outfit guilty in advance. It is up to the judiciary. We as leaders are not competent to pronounce anyone guilty or not guilty. CPM Led Kerala Government who took the support of Jamaat e Islami's support during last Assembly Election. Tamilnadu Government(Congress + CPM + DMK) who ordered that cases be dropped against 12 Muslim fundamentalists, all followers of Kichaan Buhari, an Al Umma sympathizer and key accused in the Coimbatore serial blasts.

It is for nation to decide what they have to do?

Foot Note:
The Asian Age newspaper (August 19, 2001) published a letter recovered from a fidayeen in an encounter with security forces deployed for the Amarnath Yatra. The letter reads 'We are fidayeen. I am a fidayeen and in the name of Allah we will continue to kill and be killed till such time we destroy India and we overcome India.'

All India Muslim Personal Law Board(AIMPLB): Recitation of Vande Mataram against Islam

There was a time when thousands of freedom fighters faced British Bullets singing Vande Matram. But these are different times. Now we have become secular.
Recently, Centre asked all schools to make their students recite the first two stanzas of Vande Mataram as part of the centenary celebrations of the National Song on September 7. All India Muslim Personal Law Board(AIMPLB)has protested this move. According to them reciting Vande Mataram is against the tenets of the shariat (islamic law). There are some lines in Vande Mataram which go against our religion. They have said that Muslims could under no circumstances allow their children to recite the song. And as a concesssion they said "Muslims had no problem in reciting the National Anthem, Jana gana mana. As if Nation is asking their permission and begging them to sing National Song!!

Following are first two stanza of Vande Matram:

Mother, I bow to thee!
Rich with thy hurrying streams,
bright with orchard gleams,
Cool with thy winds of delight,
Dark fields waving Mother of might,
Mother free.
Glory of moonlight dreams,
Over thy branches and lordly streams,
Clad in thy blossoming trees,
Mother, giver of ease
Laughing low and sweet!
Mother I kiss thy feet,
Speaker sweet and low!
Mother, to thee I bow.

I am still trying to understand what is so Anti Islam in above two Para? It for the nation to decide whether we have space for such people in our country.

News

Update:
The national song Vande Mataram is "against Islamic beliefs" and asking Muslims to sing it would amount to "suppression" of the community, said Shahi Imam of Delhi's Jama Masjid Syed Ahmed Bukhari.

ek machar sala aadmi ko hijraa bana deta hai

It seems Terrorists have incredible sense of timing. Like clockwork they attack us atleast once every month less we forget about them. Yesterday it was ISKCON, a month back it was Mumbai.
And what is our reaction! NOTHING, ZILCH! Our prime minister cannot even bring himself to say that the terrorism in India is being sponsored from Pakistan. His said "I am confident that the people of this great city have the will and courage to face this situation and will stand firm in their resolve to carry on their normal activities without succumbing to threats of terror. We will work to defeat the evil designs of terrorists and will not allow them to succeed" .
Mr. PM, You need not be reminded us on our strengths after all we have withstood such Attrocities for last 1000 Years. First from Mughal Emperors, then from British. Only sad part is subjucation of last 1000 Years have made us Impotent. Now we donot even react to such Attrocities.

Our TV media kept reminding us that the attacks are reaction to Babri Masjid Demolition and Gujarat Issue. In the action-reaction theory, they conveniently forgot that Babri Masjid Demolition was a reaction to the Demolition of a Ram Temple and Gujarat Riot was in reaction to Godhra Carnage. Guess, they are following the ageold wisdom of when in Rome be a Roman.

Mr. PM, we as citizens of this nations demand to know what is your action plan or are we the sacrificial lamp on the Altars of SUCKularism? Please donot test the limits. As Nana Patekar aptly said in one of the movies"ek machar sala aadmi ko hijraa bana deta hai"

Arjun's next step: Fund madarssas

Now, out of every Rs 100 spent by the government under the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, to make all of India's children literate, Rs 26 will now be directed towards the Muslim community.
This means one fourth of the Rs 10000 crore allocated for the Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan for the current fiscal will be utilised in areas with large Muslim population.

Great Move Arjun. Keep it up. I am sure all the money you give them would be well spend. No Marks for guessing how?

News

in Kerala: 18 suspected SIMI activists arrested

Kerala Police arrested 18 suspected activists of the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) in Binamipuram in this district. Acting on a tip-off that SIMI activists were conducting a meeting at an auditorium in Binamipuram, the place was raided and the suspected activists were arrested, police said. They also seized certain literature enumerating SIMI's activities in India, and pamphlets and books printed in Pakistan. All the arrested were in the late 20's and were from different parts of the state, police said.

As per the the TV news (Asianet) they were carrying Map of India Without Kashmir!
I am amazed by their audacity (Look at the smile on their faces)for holding such a meeting at such a time. Or is it the feeling that they are safe and Immune? That wont be surprising considering the current PDF Government is elected with the support of Ultra Fundamentalist Jamaat E Islami(ex Mother of SIMI)

Update:-
The police said they recovered ``seditious'' material including SIMI pamphlets and a book, "Mass Resistance in Kashmir — Origin, Evolution and Options." The Islamic Foundation based in Leicester in the U.K published this book authored by Taheer Ameen of the Institute of Policy Studies, Islamabad. The book was borrowed from a local library.

My Answer

Someone left these comments on my previous post

Here you are raising two points.
1. One is that those Dalits who have undergone conversion must not be considered for reservation.
2. The second is that conversion should be discouraged.

I ask you a question -
Do you consider that conversion improves the social status of the Dalits?

If you say "Yes" to the above question, then you must encourage more conversions to improve the status of the Dalits.

If you say "No" to the above question, then you must encourage the continuation of reservation to the converted Dalits.

Well, to state the truth, the social status of the Dalits does not improve in the eyes of religious community in which they belonged to before. If at all, it improves only in their sense of belonging to a community which promises them the respect which they earlier missed.

The religion which is losing the numbers cries fowl, the religion which is gaining the numbers says it is good.

The politicians are counting the numbers.

We are watching the fun.

Lets get our facts right. The Fruits of reservation is not open to all the poor sections of the society. The objective of reservation is exclusive to adherents of native Indian dharmas to enable them to overcome historic social disadvantages which kept them economically and educationally backward. With reservation we expect to bring the less fortunate in Hindu Society on Par with others wrt to Economic & Social Status. It also tries to remove the stigma associated with them. This condition donot exist in Xtian Society. Christianity sought converts on the plea that it did not discriminate between believers, and hence low caste believers would loose the social stigma of their original caste. This would mean the So called Xtian Dalits are asking reservation only becuase they are Economically backward and the Current Policy of reservation do to cater to this group.

By the way are there Dalits in Xtians?

Conversion Agenda Again

Kerala Catholic Bishops Conference (KCBC) has demanded following as part of their champain during Justice Sunday-2006 on August 20 .

The letter said the Catholic community in India had a responsibility to come forward for the liberation of Dalit Christians. "The community continues to be vociferous against the injustice shown by the Government to Dalit Christians. As a result, the State Government had granted some concessions. But still, reservation rights for jobs and education have not been given," the letter said.

The Dalit Christians would enjoy these rights only if they were included in the Scheduled Community list. "Dalit Christians and Dalits lost their rights only because they embraced Christianity. Though the Central Government in 1996 called for the opinion of the State with regard to granting reservation rights to Dalit Christians, the Government has not responded," the pastoral letter said

This is outrageous demand. The Constitution provided reservations to former untouchables to enable them to overcome historic social disadvantages which kept them economically and educationally backward. Howver, Christianity sought to convert them on the plea that it did not discriminate between believers, and hence low caste believers would loose the social stigma of their original caste. Now to ask reservation under the guise that they are Dalit Christian is Ridiculous.

Any decision to extending reservation benefits to Dalit Christians could deal a death blow to the Indian nation as it would actively encourage conversions. Dalits who were lured to the Christian fold to better their social, economic and educational status should rethink their move and return to their traditional cultural moorings.